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Is there an effective way to deal with harassment?

I got myself into a bad situation on social media, and it's making me want to isolate, or just fall back on old habits.
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that character is qt.
i should learn to draw tbh, i want to draw something like that.


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Touhou. The artist is Sentaku-sen on pixiv. He made a series called Koishi Komeiji's Heart Throbbing Adventure, which features Koishi as the main character and starts out with rough drawings. The art improves during later episodes:


Art takes a lot of practice, but it can be a fun hobby to get into.


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I'll try to summarize this without getting into specifics.

There's a fandom I'm a part of which has users dictating content that gets made. Anti-types from places like tumblr. Back in March, a fan wrote an analysis of a character from games in the series, which garnered a negative reaction. It was well done- a thoroughly fascinating read, but people didn't see it that way. The anti crowd targeted this person, looking into their personal works for information to use against them and creating memes about it, jokes that were quickly run into the ground. Their response was to make a video essay further explaining their viewpoints/the drama without attacking anyone. It was an hour long, but didn't feel like it- the whole thing made me view the series in a way I had never considered before, and they included humor to keep things lighthearted. However, people didn't bother to watch, harassing them further.

I've been there before, with others looking down on me for creating something they dislike, so I made a post in support of the author. Detractors began attacking me next, and the user who was targeted didn't respond. This will sound like a foolish move, but I tried something else afterwards: creating a comic to sort of defuse everything, which seemed to work. People stopped after that. I didn't get as many responses, but because of what went down I'm considering leaving social media entirely, or just avoiding the fandom.

So that's what happened. I know it's stupid to care so much. The whole situation is pretty ridiculous. This happened just as I was dealing with personal issues in real life, and it feels like everything's getting worse.


I would not have cared, absolutely. Just kept on posting whatever i want, if you don't use your real identity then whats the harm? more fame for you.


Give them no attention, but never forget.

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I wish I could go back and start over more than anything. Despite only leaving my house once a week I somehow still have some friends that invite me out for board games and stuff. But I can see the writing on the wall, I'm getting older, not quite hopeless yet but approaching hopeless. My 30s loom over me like a darkling plain, past approaching and unforgiving.

I have so much trouble just talking to people, even people I like, even people I've known for years. I have anxiety for days sometimes even a week leading up to hanging out with someone. I always have lists of things I want to do to try to improve but barely accomplish even a 10th of the things on them. In one part because of my aweful habit to procrastinate on everything even sleep, when sleep really should be my best friend.

Yet, in the other part I have crippling anxiety being around people almost universally. Only my mother manages to make me feel truly at ease and she'll be dead in a few decades and then it will just be me.

Why did it have to be like this? What can I even do? I've been depressed over not even getting to go to high school for the past half decade of my life once I realized far too late how important and formative the experience would have been. Instead I dropped out at the age of 17, and it took more years yet to realize how much of a fuck up that was.

I never got bullied by other children as an adolescent really, the problem was always the adults. Peg the weird kid as an autist and segregate him. That's all they ever did, segregated classes, segregated bus, segregated school programs, whole segregated schools and eventually solitary confinement for refusing to do schoolwork. I was never violent, just depressed and unwilling to move, what an offense to the people who were supposed to be there for me the most during some of the most important years of my life.

And now hear I am. Still terrified to go outside because it was conditioned into me to be terrified. I've since been diagnosed with PTSD from all this. I don't know what to do, I don't know how to relate and maintain the energy others do. I try but where others seem to get energized by social interaction it just exhausts me for days and weeks and throws me into spirals where all I can do is laze around and play old video games. Yet I need the interaction, and I need the motivation they have to get better while there's still time… thanks for reading my blog if you did ubPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


I don't have any solutions for you, but one thing I can say is there are plenty of people who make it when they're older than that. I tend to get fixated on youtubers so sorry for ecelebshit but the one that comes to mind at the moment is Danny from game grumps. He was poor for a long time and had to ask his parents for money all the time until some time in his 30s he started making a living from his band and then a bit later a huge living from playing video games. Also Arin was a high school dropout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Aol9-UiTU
Don't focus too much on repairing aspects of your mentality, I mean still do that, but mostly think about what you want to accomplish in the real world and do it despite your flaws. It's really cool that you have friends, let them help you accomplish something. People like being helpful and feeling needed, they like working on projects with their friends, and even if yours don't want they'll still feel happy that you thought them worthy of asking. Even just letting them know about a project you're doing will peer pressure you into completing it. Peer pressure is an incredible motivator, maybe the best especially for anxious people, that's a weakness you can turn into a strength. I really liked the videos you posted by the way.


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Oh all that stuff about your friends goes for your mum too.

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post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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Fucking hell lads I made it, I literally cried tears of joy yesterday on hearing the news. I've been working as an au pair in Poland since early January, and the host mom got me an interview in the local private school as an English teacher. We fucking made it.

My house is still hopefully about to be sold, but my life is finally where I wanted it to be. Living in Poland is great I have friends here and been dating, just need to get in shape again after the year off since getting COVID on my birthday last February brought back chronic fatigue symptoms.

My dad is in the process of going bankrupt but I'll be fine at least. Sister just applied for her master's and is doing well. Mom and stepdad well.

Follow your dreams and never give up lads :)


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Your Cat is nice, otherwise wrong board jackass. You're not a hikki, you're not even a NEET. And I don't want to see your face either.


I was for 7 years and this is my thread fuck off


I ran out of my vitamin D supplements not long ago and I'm beginning to face the effects without it. Being a hikki especially one who's been inside for 6 months now I know it won't go well without it - going to reup soon.

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I've been thinking about this for quite a long time. I'm a hikki and NEET, don't have an education and am disabled. What are some ways I could I get by when/if things go sour, or if I want to leave this lifestyle? I am probably too far gone already, but hopefully one of these can work for you. This topic gets discussed a lot in NEET/hikki communities, but I'm mentioning a lot stuff I don't see listed elsewhere. Don't believe anyone who tells you "bro you have to go out and work a job, sorry, that's life." Fuck that noise! Some of these are fully sustainable, some are risky, just for short-term cash, or a small amount of passive income. Some of these are kind of out there and and may not work well in practice.

(You'll want to read the first reply to this thread for a continuation, the body was way too long.)

>Pornographic artist/developer

Porn artists and porn game developers can make serious money through both commissions and Patreon. The more depraved/niche you're willing to do (gay, furry, scat etc.), the better the pay is. Porn games can also make a lot more money than just doing porn art.

>Boosting people, competitive vidya

I've done this when I was a GM Overwatch player, but I don't play that game anymore. With enough skill and time put in, you could sustain yourself completely with this. Hard part is getting a reputation at the beginning, you need to be patient. Should be smooth sailing from there, as long as major changes to the game don't fuck you up.

>Game cheat developer

Subscription private cheats. You can read and learn a lot about cheat development on forums like UnknownCheats. It's really not that hard; if you know C or C++, you're ready to get started. Cheat development is fun, too. Alternatively, use your undetected private cheat for boosting people more reliably.

>The Amazon affiliate program

This is a little complicated to explain here. It involves creating websites and SEO. You'll want to read this, it actually has some good information, explained better than I ever could: https://old.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/5mzpz6/in_2016_i_made_31615415_via_the_amazon_affiliate/
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Here are PDF and txtfiles of the 4th book. It's also on Amazon. I don't plan on writing anymore. Sometimes I give them away like this on other -chans too




I will read.


Very cool!

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I've given up with my life and want to end it but I also want to end it as well for a fuck ton of over people what do?

[spoiler] Thinking about blowing up a crowded subway car or something.
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Quick, take a pic of your butthole as it is right now so we can compare it to when you get out of prison.

Also, was uboa down for a few hours for anyone else?


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and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids


What's the point of killing a bunch of random people who have done nothing to you? The only thing you'll achieve is increasing misery in the world.


I assume OP was some troll, but it's obvious as to why people do things like that: It's because they want to induce that misery in people. A mere "directionless" person without anger or frustration probably wouldn't want to do a mass attack. It's people who want to "get back" at society in the aggregate by causing as much physical and psychological damage to the collective as possible. Of course, this lashing out often leads to the person's death, but there is a clear goal to it, and it is often done by disadvantaged people like high school dropouts such as Ramos, Cruz, Steinhauser, etc.
This explains many untargeted attacks by non-political killers.


based, fuck people who threaten to kill others

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What works depict hikikomori/shut-in characters that you found relatable?
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OP here. Thank you for recommending this one- I'm Izumi's age and work part time, so a lot of chapters hit close to home.

I'll check it out when possible. The art style looks interesting.

Read this years ago. It's neat to see that other people are enjoying it. I remember it started out as a comic on pixiv before Kabi-san was able to publish the manga- an audience gave her the inspiration to work commercially.


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New recommendation: Alter Ego

An app by Caramel Column about psychoanalysis. You are a wanderer searching for aspects of your personality, which the owner of a library, Es, helps you recover. The interpretations are surprisingly insightful, and the game has you learn about different forms of literature as well, if you're looking for new books to read. It has multiple endings and is free to download.


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I think that Hachiman Hikigaya from OreGairu is a kinda relatable character for me. He's not a hikki but his mindset is relatable.
Since I grew up in a poor family with divorced parents in a small rural dying village I always was kinda cynical and had extreme trust issues. I could never really connect to the people in school who all came from distant citys and knew each other.

Tomoko was also interesting but I never really wanted to be popular. I always thought that wanting to be the center of attention or chasing after girls is kinda pathetic. I just wanted to have fun with my bros.

This pic is interesting. As a kid it was completly normal for me to shower only once a week. I also dont had that much clothes, I changed them also only once per week. Funnily since I became a NEET I actually have the time to shower every day and buy new clothes.


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When I recommended Chi no Wadachi earlier in this thread, it was for similar reasons. It's interesting that people are recommending stories about characters that don't quite fall under the definition of full NEET here.

Seichii Osabe, the protagonist, ends up living as a recluse when he reaches adulthood, working a deadend job, with no close relationships or people to rely on but himself. This is in part due to his mother, Seiko, who abused Seiichi as a child and ruined his life, to the point where he hallucinates about her nearly twenty years later. The manga has heavy subject material, but worth checking out if you read Aku no Hana/The Flowers of Evil. It's still ongoing, to my knowledge.


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Irisu Syndrome

A puzzle game made in Ren'py. It's about four college students who take a vacation on an island, but start disappearing overnight.

The main character, Irisu, uses the shape puzzle as a coping mechanism, imagining it to pass the time.

As you play, check the files. They change depending on the ending you get, similar to DDLC. Earning 40k points unlocks a special mode called Metsu.

Download + english patch: https://cheerfultomboy.wordpress.com/irisu/

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I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I'm scared to live on my own. My situation could not end with me being labeled a NEET, exactly- after graduating college, my parents let me continue living with them. I fell out of contact with all of the friends I knew in university. It's been seven years since I left high school, seven since I dated or really made any meaningful connections with anyone. I work a shitty part time job that leaves me with no energy to be social. Trying to help around the house more, but I feel like such a disappointment, barely knowing how to pay bills, clean, unable to really accomplish anything.

All I can do is lay in bed and play games. That I can't fuck up, at least. I'm grateful everyday to have these resources and not be homeless, but I'm terrified of the thought that my parents could die someday, and I'd be left alone, unable to survive. Does anyone else live with this fear, losing your caretaker? How do you deal with it?
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Thanks for responding. It's kind of a relief to know I'm not alone there.

I wish I could stop thinking about this- unfortunately, I tend to have intrusive thoughts that revolve around it.


Hey Anon, i know you’re still with us even after only 30 days…. but you’re not alone

Please hear me out. You’re not alone out there. I’ve dealt with depression and anxiety for years, while I have made progress in recovering over the past 3 years, it’s still tough. I never figured out what I wanted to do in life, I never liked the education system here in the US so I saw no point in attending university either.

I graduated from hs almost 6 years ago and I’ve felt lost since, it’s what I kept telling myself. Sure I was able to make some money and everything, but I felt empty, I felt repulsed by myself because I didn’t know what I wanted to do in this life.

I still keep in contact with some friends and was introduced to new people through them, but god I feel embarrassed being with them sometimes because of my situation. Sometimes I don’t see them for months at a time, yet they welcome me with open arms every time. I still live with my parents of course, it’s normal in most cultures worldwide to do so so I’m really grateful that they’ve helped support me.

Can I be able to live independently? i don’t know, but i’m open to getting my own place one day if i can be able to afford it.

It was a few months ago where I decided I should do something more and figure out something…a stable income in a remote position is all I’m looking for.

I honestly do like being outside and being social when I can. I went to the beach today and walking down the path and seeing the people there make me realize how much I really do love the world and my life in general. My judgment was so clouded because of my negative thought patterns about myself that going out and looking at the world in this bigger picture really helps me.

I hope you’re doing good anon and I hope your situation improves. I used to hang around other hikki/neet servers on discord, but idk what happened to a lot of the people there.
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I don't know what else to say, but sincerely: thank you for this, anon. I appreciate hearing about your situation and wish you the best of luck. I apologize if the way I word this post is awkward; not great at expressing my feelings through text. Feels like people don't respond to my posts as a result.

You're correct- I'm still here after thirty days. Back in 2016, the summer after graduating, I got into Yume Nikki. That lead down a rabbit hole where I started playing the fangames: Yume 2kki first, then .flow, and Miserere. I liked 2kki the most- it was on a larger scale and more difficult to play, but I really loved what uboachan did with it. After that, I started participating in different boards. There was one thread in which I recieved harassment, and it made me not want to go on here much- this happened a year before YNDD came out. To be honest, the controversy surrounding its release contributed to that. I enjoyed playing the remake, but never voiced it because people here got incensed over basic discussion. Guess I can talk about it now that's died down.


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I stopped going on ubuu for a few years, and tried to finish college while distancing myself from drama. That worked out for the most part. It helped me to focus on what's important, and do things I enjoyed more often: reading, drawing, listening to music. Elsewhere, I create artwork and write stories (picrel). YN inspired me to make my own game, as well- I'm planning to release an RPG horror title in the future, hopefully when I find steady income.

You can see some of my other inspirations in this recommendation thread: >>>/hikki/7167

I'm the OP- if anyone here wants to share media they like but is nervous to do that, feel free to contribute. Maybe you'll find a new series you like.


What you said resonated with me. I've been feeling empty, in the current job I work (retail) and at home. People are so far away, like everyone's vanished. But it's important to try, just as it's important to appreciate the little things in life. For the longest time, I wasn't able to see that.

To become independent would be an amazing thing. On some level, I still feel like I'll never be able to achieve that, much less find roommates. Whenever I've applied to full-time positions I've gotten rejection letters saying I need more experience. However, I had an interview over the phone last week, so hopefully that will lead to further employment. I'm trying to spend more time with friends and family as well, even if it's just on discord.

As for where the hikki/neets went, they probably moved on with their lives to do other things, or weren't able to find happiness. Those spaces are dead nowdays, with sporadic activity. Users here seem to be participating on and off.

Same to you, anon. Please take care.

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Is anyone else sad when their posts get no replies? I don't mean here but on bigger sites. I'm kinda lonely.
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>Sometimes what people say can be overwhelming, and responding can be difficult. I know that I struggled with that before. Especially when people say a bunch of truly horrible things, I can struggle to even know how to react appropriately. I'm sure that I made other people feel the same in the past. I could tell.
I relate and really feel what you're saying since this just happened to me yesterday. I tried to interact with people outside of what I'd usually browse, on an 8gag spinoff to see if it was any good, but they were pretty hostile. Maybe it was because I tried to make a random rambling post to fit in, but yeah I feel like I am just failing really hard at trying to branch out because deep inside most people on imageboards look down on people who aren't the regular kind that they expect. I wish I understood people, even those who I think would get me. Honestly I wish there was a better alternative besides imageboards but there just isn't.


>person asks something
>I and another person reply
>OP only talks to the other person
sounds like real life.


Seems that way. I can only relate to a few people in boards like this and for the most part that's about it because I guess I'm too weird, but it never goes beyond that because leaving contact information at all feels like pressuring people too much, so I have never done it.


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>I wish I understood people, even those who I think would get me

Relate to this a lot. I think that's what makes finding places I can interact in so special for me, though: I feel somewhat more understood, and like I can understand more. Maybe it's just because of the similar pains we find ourselves going through that many of us find boards like this more welcoming.

I tend to get worked up about this, as well. Sometimes, it makes me wonder if the way I speak/type makes me seem like either a stuffy arsehole who is impossible to talk to, or just a total retard, even if the actual content of what I say is the same as another person.


I wish hikkichan still existed so you could regularly get replies

though I'd want it to be a hard vetted site so people don't just come in and pretend

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Hey uboachan, I'm trying to do an art project on NEETcaves and coming to the end of my search but figured it would be good to get in some diversity from the sites I use. Anyway I am trying to get an art gallery up and running displaying NEETrooms + thoughts and feelings from NEETs. If you would like to help it would take a few minuets and you can find a link to the google form here https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1TjcxnVdl_cAk7cPTjgzzS2H8TZz2HAQ6dWw2_whsSMM it’s editable so you can edit or withdraw your submission whenever, if you are interested but don’t wanna sign into google feel free to email me at connectedculturesociety@gmail.com and I can copy paste the stuff your way or feel free to poke my brain about anything else.

Thanks for reading, hope you lot have a good one.


This is a really good idea, thankyou. I'll email you if I have the motivation soon!


u still doing this?


leech off some other group of people

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I genuinely don't know how to connect with people anymore. They always say making online friends is an easy option, but I can't even bring myself to digitally chat to anyone about my interests. Even posting this is taking up a lot of nerve for me. Nearly graduating college, and I haven't made a singular friend in university. My classmates are either arrogant, rich kids or pretentious know-it-alls. I don't know what I wanna do once I graduate. Probably get a job and earn some money. It's kinda pathetic to say that I wanna earn enough so I could afford seeing a therapist. Therapy is so expensive here, I haven't even had an actual medical check-up in years. And not to be that guy who self-diagnoses mental illness, but I think there is something up with me that can't be just chalked up to "introversion". I want really do wanna make friends, but at the same time, I feel detached and disconnected from everyone. I just feel like every person I meet is temporary, hence why I don't really put in much effort into long-lasting relationships.

I made one online friend, and that was because I was so fucking desperate and possibly manic that I messaged them first. Haven't been close with them recently. Now, I still wanna talk to them, but I don't want to bring them down with my bullshit depressing nonsense. My cousins keep inviting me to go out and I'm grateful for them. But, I can't help feeling like a charity case. I know full well there's some pity there, and that my parents asked them to hang out with me. Likely because they were that worried I was a piece of shit loner. I don't wanna come off as being completely sad, I feel kinda okay actually, it's just it feels like I'm just floating by directionless, making no impact on anything or anyone.
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OP here. Sorry, I'm new to forums so I dunno the etiquette and how to format yet.

I did join organizations in my university. Unfortunately, we're still mostly on online classes so I haven't had the opportunity to meet new people yet. The orgs have their own discord servers, but again, I'm mostly a lurker and I don't know how to approach people digitally either.

>It's hard to be friends with someone if you always look down on them or find a reason not to like them. People are more than their outward appearance.

Admittedly, I wrote the original post when I was in a bitter mood. I know that there's more to people than outward impressions, and that I gotta lighten up. Still, I've been with some of my classmates for years now, and I was not clicking with their personalities. Some of them are just generally unlikeable and complain a lot— and I worry that those traits rubbed on me 'cause I'm not any better.


Honestly don't worry about the formatting too much. I used to get on anons for it until I saw many 4chan archives from 2003-5 that were filled with anons reddit spacing, using tumblr grammar before tumblr existed, and using lolspeak. In other words, anons have formatted and talked in a myriad of ways for many years and the collective beatings we give each other are more to just collectively beat each other than to actually maintain any culture. It's somewhat taboo for me to be explaining all this upfront, anons are generally supposed to learn through the aforementioned beatings, but I like this place and find it more constructive to explain on smaller boards.
That said, posts are generally considered more readable when formatted without a space inbetween paragraphs, opting instead to just hit enter and type new paragraphs on the immediate next line. Grammar doesn't matter much, but at least using capital letters at the start of a sentence and using periods is generally appreciated too.

/\ The paragraphs above follows readability formatting convention. I've noticed that sometimes spaces between large paragraphs when there are a lot of paragraphs are tolerated depending on the board too. Some boards will call this "reddit spacing." Notice how my first two paragraphs don't have a space between them but this one does. Below I will provide an example of what I personally consider to be true reddit spacing, this is actually kind of obnoxious in my view, but board culture too has embraced it in various points of its own history. In terms of vernacular, you will pick up what words mean and what normal words to replace with board culture synonyms overtime.

im writin dis 2 demonstrate teh most obnoxious form ov formattin

in da 2000s dis wuz wai MOAR common

ins't dis kind ov annoyin?

imagine readin it on CRT ( ◕▿◕ )

(Secretly though, I love old emoticons, and am totally fine with them, this board seems to be too sometimes.)


I didn't know that spacing paragraphs was called reddit formatting. I always did that when the adjacent paragraphs weren't related, because it's just easier to read.

Fuck sticking to conventions decided by other people, though. Unless it's extremely obnoxious (as you point out), or just plain unreadable because of poor use of punctuation, anything is fine, really.

I would suggest just sticking to a general chat rather than trying to befriend people individually. Those that like you will eventually interact with you more, and if you also feel someone is interesting, you should definitely interact with them if that's what you want. There's also no pressure to "keep a conversation appealing" or worrying about what to say, etc. Because you're not the person who drives the conversation in the first place. Just think of it as throwing some words at the wind.
I used to have the lurker syndrome like you, but my (rare) contributions were usually appreciated by a few people, who eventually became close friends. I have to admit that they were more ongoing / not as timid as I was, which helped as they typically initiated the interactions, but I don't see why you shouldn't find similar people.

Now, this is all anecdotal (and therefore not a magic solution that works for everyone), but please do consider just trying even if you don't feel comfortable / you're nervous to say what you think. Especially on the internet, most people just spout random shit, so in the worst case, people will not really think too deeply about what you say, and in the best case, you might find similar-minded buddies.


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Can I offer some advice as an extroverted autistic?

How i've always made friends is by finding common ground. Where i'm from, it's not unusual to talk to strangers especially if something happened, such as a late bus, or a shit class. It's often just small talk and a shared laugh but if you play your cards right and have enough time, you might just be able to introduce yourself to whoever you're talking with.
Met one of my closest friends because i was reading jojo's bizarre adventure in class and they asked about it (i admit i went on a bit of an autistic rant about it, but it paid off)

finding common ground is key to having a really good topic of conversation, so if you want to make some close friends, seek out places oriented around your interests. You don't have to be totally active in them, just shoot a 'hello chat; gif or something once in a while and you'll eventually strike up a convo

>I just feel like every person I meet is temporary, hence why I don't really put in much effort into long-lasting relationships.

Unfortunately that is the nature of friendships. eventually, they will fade. However, i also think that's what makes friendships so good: limited time. Opening yourself up and making memories before everything fades is what makes them so precious.

You are almost definitely going to have to open up and start actively seeking them out, like when you were in your possibly manic state, but trust me, the self pity is worth the connection times a thousand.

I imagine seeking out a much more outgoing person as a friend could work: as one of those people we often take the more introverted ones under our wing. I was always the loud and slightly obnoxious one out of my friend group of depressed autistics

I hope things get easier for you anon!


This is really informative, thanks! I generally just try breaking up my thoughts into multiple paragraphs to avoid big blocks of text. Still adjusting to board culture, especially with all the slang and vernacular. Might commit a faux pas, but I'll probably learn as I go.

>I would suggest just sticking to a general chat rather than trying to befriend people individually.
Yeahhh, this definitely seems like the way to go for me. If New Year's resolutions carry any meaning, I'm setting out to stop lurking, go out there and just say stuff that interests me in the hopes I attract similar-minded people. Initiating conversations are hard for me, and I guess there is the major fear of being ignored. Probably need to just suck it up and get used to it.

Thanks for the advice! I can't really tolerate going outside meeting people yet, so maybe I'll just make baby steps with interacting in group chats. I wish I can make another extroverted friend to at least balance my personality out. All my close friends are either far away or too busy, so it's just me with my introverted self recently.

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