/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

>>6871
Except it's worse than that, because they want the definition of "cult" expanded to the point that there doesn't even need to be any coherent doctrine, any leadership (weaksauce Discord frameups from the '10s aside). In other words, the proper domain of that which polices against cults, its beat, is the totality of human social interaction.

>>6871
You actually gave that much of your time and effort to respond to a lazy shitpost.

>>6873
I did. It was worth saying.

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>>6827
Dogshit posts. Back to Reddit.

>>7268
Funny you mention Reddit when its one of the most troon-infested sites on the entire internet to the point that there's a non-trivial chance your account will be nuked entirely should you say something wrong.

Don't expect people to ignore and enable mental illness or to go along with its fantasies.

>>7229
it's going to be okay, it really sucks but as long as you're breathing and faking it enough you'll be okay. no one actually hates quiet or reserved people too much. tell yourself it's only temporary if it helps, everything is.

>>7239
please explain why we have to fake who we are to survive doesn't that seem a little messed up just sayin…

>>7240
are you underage? sometimes people are forced into situations beyond their control, everything is unfair and sometimes it really hits you in the face. trying your best to keep it together can be literally all you have left until you're able to somehow change the situation again. this isn't twitter.

>>7241
>they think they can change the situation
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>>7240
Because the real word isn't some blissful reality where "jus b urself" works for a lot of people. There's always the chance that you'll reach the point where being genuine is okay, where you'll have actual friends and a stable enough lifestyle that lets you have some sense of freedom, even if the extent to which you express that freedom is being sad or anxious visibly sometimes. Before you find that chance, though, you may have to fake it until you make it. Keep to yourself, do what's expected, and then go home. It's a way to survive, and not a way to live, but is being a hikkineet forever living, either?

>>7224
Tohnochan has some of the shittiest rules I've ever seen on an imageboard. A shame, really.

>When was the last time you went outside?
a month ago

not much reason to go out again anytime soon

>>7224
Hello /late/r.

>>7224
Late.city is pretty cozy, though i've heard others voice their concerns abt the slow traffic.

>>7222
I highly recommend putting on a comfy podcast as some bg noise, personally helped me alot with my anxiety.

Maybe put it at a lower volume/cover one ear instead of both if you're scared someone might try to cause trouble, and remember, always carry any form of self-defense weapon.

>>7225
Their rules are pretty restrictive but even so there's a lot of activity and good discussion there. I don't agree with all their rules but they have given the board a unique culture and kept the eternal september of 2016 at bay which I appreciate a lot.
>>7228
Sup friend, what's your favorite(s) fizzy drink? Mine's venom killer taipan.
>>7233
/late/ is slow but it's active, and it's culture is the closest I've come to finding another /doomer/ since the great exodus.

>>7112
No.

>>7110
i sometimes wish i could just like, hit pause on reality for a while, experience all sorts of things that i normally couldn't because society, money, time, whatever, and then unpause having gained all that experience and not aged

In my ideal life, I would be rich without working. First, I'd move out of my parent's home. Then I'd put all the bills in automatic payment, and I'd order a new PC online.
That's it. I'd be happy.

I'd be happy.

I can't think of anything else to say. Everything in the entire universe seems dull and unappealing. So in my ideal life, that wouldn't be the case?

Probably neet in my own place except in peak condition health, that's all I'd really want out of my "ideal" lifestyle.

I'd wake up tomorrow completely broke without my pc and in same position if it meant I could be my ideal version of healthy.

>>7176
Great, I agree that it could work then. Good luck with it, hope you the best Anon!

>lol are tulpas actually real.
That wikihow article is absolutely hilarious lol.

I've never interacted with anyone who would've had one, but they sound plausible knowing how tricky our minds can be. Seems extremely hard to achieve something like that though. All the crap about them being actually sentient and some supernatural beings and whatnot is total pseudoscience to me, however

>>7127

you'll never truly be able to escape the loneliness, because it's part of the lifestyle. the best remedy i've found for my own continued isolation is keeping my hobbies interesting to me and my time spent (relatively) meaningfully. the main enemy of a NEET is also their main perk: the endless amount of time you have. if you're able to focus on something cool, for an extended period of time, being alone for all that time isn't so bad.

>>7166
>This advice is going to sound bizarre

nah, it's good advice. i think most people neglect the importance of a rich internal dialogue. i often run things, like thoughts on whatever film i just watched or anxieties about the days ahead, by my "internal voice", and i can have a kind of back-and-forth between myself and myself. it may not be as extreme as a full-on imaginary friend, but that's honestly just one step away from embracing your inner voice and actually engaging with what it has to say.

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You're welcome. Glad I could help, in some way.

I wasn't entirely sure how anons here would react to this kind of advice, so I was hesitant to label it as "you absolutely must try this". irl, people who don't suffer from anxiety tend to offer unhelpful advice, saying that you just need to be more social, interact with others more, etc. It gets pretty grating at times. This was one of the few things that helped at a time I wasn't getting therapy.

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For me, I always enjoyed writing stories and creating characters. That's how I was able to personify the voices in my head- but it does take effort and time. If you don't have a lot of practice maintaining that inner world, it can be pretty daunting. But it's rewarding at the same time- like lucid dreaming while you're awake.

One thing that's important is to not go too far with it. If that imaginary friend starts berating you, or you're completely relying on them then it'll become a nightmare to deal with. You've got to integrate it with the real world, and pretend it doesn't exist when you're in public, being observed with others.

>>7183
Headmates aren't really tulpas, though they're similar. I'm not sure what else to call mine- people with DiD create systems they're a part of to deal with trauma, and that's where I got the term from.
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>>7174
I've been trying having an imaginary friend recently, if only because i'm exceptionally bored and enjoy experimenting with strange ideas. I haven't had much luck so far. I do intend to keep trying for a while, as consistency is king, but there've been a couple things that have been difficult for me:
1. I have trouble visualizing people, and especially faces. Also, it's hard to decide how realistic to make them, because I find real people unappealing, but I also don't want a bubblegum looking anime character.
2. No matter which personality I go with, I feel i'm always at a blank for what to make them say/do. The problem is that I don't care about anything, and imagining someone that cares about things I don't is hard.
3. It's pretty tiring.
4. It feels very LARPy, which I know is kind of the point, but I can't get the things I say in response to the imaginary person to feel natural/real or actually representative of me. Not only does it feel like i'm playing out another character in my head, but it also feels like i'm playing out myself as a character, and ideally I want it to feel more natural.

What i'd like to achieve is an independent personality in my head, sorta, that would respond automatically or comment on things automatically without much input from me. I think the ability to do this kind of thing might be related to hypnotic suggestibility, which I know is low for me.

>>7210
Not him and don't have any experience on the matter, but you could start with smaller steps.
Personally been trying to start believing in a deity, even though I'm a very cynical person.
Maybe you could start with an animal, or a faceless person. Imagining someone who is more similar to you might be easier for you than imagining someone who isn't. It might also help to get some reference material for the shape or personality you want your imaginary friend to mimic.
My faith has mostly only shown when I'm in situations of high-stress or pain. Perhaps you can find a friend within you to cheer you up when you are feeling down.
The best of luck to you.

Doc a few months ago said I'm either in a prodromal stage for schizophrenia, have schizoaffective disorder or have schizoid personality disorder. Of course the last option is the best outcome but they're all miserable in their own way.
Can't really say I'm too surprised now that it's all settled into my mind. Back when he first told me I had a slight mental breakdown, but now, like everything else that happened in my life, it's turned into a small whirring hum that never really leaves but doesn't cause any strong emotions one way or the other.
I've had some pretty bad cards dealt to me over my life, but this one has to be the worst just for the level of staying power. I've been mentally abused by my father, bullied through my childhood and teens, raped by one of my best friend, had a girlfriend that almost ruined the little social circle I had, and yet none of that even comes close to being diagnosed as a potential schizophrenic.
Life just kinda sucks right now and the desire to just kinda kill myself grows and grows. I don't like going outside, I don't like talking to people, I don't like consuming media, or playing games, or doing art anymore, or programming. I don't really like doing anything. It'd be more accurate to say what I tolerate the most rather than what I like the most because everything just kind of sucks. I've been NEET for about a year (minus a few months I went to college for a degree I then dropped out of), I spend my days mindlessly watching youtube, playing fighting games, and watching anime barely thinking much about anything. Then I go to bed and kinda mope and sob a little to sleep, and then I wake up and repeat the whole thing over again. It's a tortourous cycle that I can literally feel rotting away my mind, yet whenever I try to do anything about it I just end back up at square 1.
I'm starting university in september at least, not exactly in a degree I'm entirely sure I want to do, but hopefully the change of pace and the forced interactions with new people gets my brain active again where I can atleast be a high functioning manic depressive, rather than some guy who's slowly losing his mind in his room.
Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to get some things off my chest because I don't really have anyone else to talk to about them.

I'm beginning to feel less and less like a hikikomori as the days go by, I think. I used to feel a noticeable distance between me and the outside world but its almost like that distance is dissolving now.

Maybe it's because I'm starting to interact more with others online. I don't use vc and I but I'll listen and respond sometimes over chat. I feel as though I'm losing sight of something or I've yet to realize I've already lost sight of it.

>>2972
I have plenty though I feel it'd be exploitative to share them and for you to share these ancedotes on YouTube.

am doing good. recently ordered a new sleeping bag online as my old one's zipper broke after three years of constant use
i'd recommend any hiki to start sleeping in a sleeping bag rather than a bed, just cuz you don't have to deal with the hassle of wet/sweaty covers and stuff

>>7201
That's… A very interesting idea.

Glad to see all the other INFPs, I love you all. Life sucks doesn't it?

intp-t. typing is nonsense though, you will never get a solid result due to the inherent lack of a single, rigid personality in people. it can be even further complicated by psychological shit like multiplicity.

>>2367
INTP-A here. op's pic related pretty much sums up what everyday feels like.
when socialization and empathy doesn't happen automatically you really feel how little in common everyone has

INTP is the worst personality type to have. It makes your life so much more difficult, not twice as hard more like you're fucked beyond belief.

You are always thinking about living in an ideal world but never actually living in the world you are in now. You're good with theoretical concepts but inept when it comes to practical application of knowledge. This basically makes you incapable of doing most tasks or you do them poorly. You can't stand being around other people but are forced to accept the fact that you can't entirely avoid them.

It's fucking exhausting being alive.

First year I took this test I think I got ISTJ or INTJ. For the next half-decade it was ISTP. Now that I take it again I got INTP (and INFP once that I tried not get to me because this is just a secular zodiac test). The amount of INFPs on imageboards or at least /hikki9kdoomerNEET/ boards explains a lot of the behavior I loathe. The more accurate way to know what type you are is to read the descriptions of the 8 or 10 categories, and be honest with yourself on who you are at the moment, the whole thing reminds me of the Deus Ex AI conversation..
>>3947
>Wishes there was a war to kill people who have more feelings than him. Good reflexes help him dodge responsibility.
That's me.

>>6220
>isolated shithole town
Sounds comfy. I live in a big city and I'm miserable. I wish I could move to some bumfuck hick town and live in some cabin in the woods away from society

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living alone in privacy somewhere in the woods sounds cozy but the thought of needing a ride every time to go to town for groceries or necessities kills the neet. Comfy without having to run into people but also within walkable distance to stores is a good balance to me personally

I'd take advantage of your generosity anon, 99% of us would because we wouldn't be able to help it. You can't just stick a bunch of dysfunctional people in halfway home and expect meaningful things to come of it. If I'm a depressed, reclusive chud and my roomies are depressed, reclusive chuds, it's going to turn into a game where we inevitably avoid one another as often as possible because none of us want to roll the dice with burdensome social interactions.

>>175
This would be great
I've dreamt of this for a while
But I keep end up failing in life and dropping out of things
But I'll try and remember to come back here later at some point

>>175
I used to think this was a good idea, and it is in a systemic sense. But as an individual I would advise you to focus on building general community and yourself up more. The sort of care that NEETs and Hikkis need takes a diligent village of mature people at minimum, and likely prolonged support from broader society. We are unfortunately a symptom of grand cultural problems that I don't want to bring up in this thread.
The solution is an equally grand systemic effort grounded in empathy to help us. I am a NEET who thanks to luck has gained some financial means over the past years, but nevertheless still lives at home. I have at various points given money to other NEETs. Even so, material support has yielded little results other than temporary happiness for recipients, which, while welcome, is not a solution.
I think a NEET house could work in principle if it was run and maintained by NEETs seeking a better life. The issue is that it requires non-NEETs to set up initially and be maintained for some indeterminate amount of time. Considering the highly volatile mental health conditions of many NEETs this is a job that simply requires more than 1 person, perhaps a particularly remarkable person could pull it off alone, and if that's you by all means, but it's not me, and it's not a lot of people.
If you're going to do it I wish you luck, but you are more likely to be successful if you get at least another person or two for support to establish a NEEThouse with. I do not wish for you to undergo the same emotional abuse at the hands of other NEETs that I have while trying to reach out and help. I provided more than money, I also provided a shoulder to cry on and a safe space. This backfired horribly as I'm not emotionally equipped to handle the abusive behaviors of other NEETs even though I empathize with their struggle deeply. This is something that would ideally involve some kind of trained mental health crises team, therapists, etc. Not to imply the mental health system always has the right answers, it doesn't, but in some cases some approaches can be helpful.

>>4708
Oh, I happen to be an expert on this. It's honestly really fucking easy.

You draw some art, it doesn't even have to be good, make sure to put a recognizable signature to it so people can google you, have a blog or something where the rest of your gallery is, link it to your paypal account or bitcoin wallet or something for people to send donations to.

Again, your art doesn't even have to be masterpieces, but what's important is a certain meme-value that compels someone to save it to their hard drive and later repost it somewhere else. Initially, you will be the one posting your own art in various different high-traffic places until it catches on and becomes viral and your fans are doing your work for you.

Use reverse image search to see who's reposting your shit and where.

>>4794
Wow, embracing mediocrity. I can't blame you for doing it, but I can't respect you either. If you can, don't live off of commissions op.

>>4795
Way to insult me dude. It's not mediocrity, read my post again, you can do what you love and not be a prostitute like Shadman who draws porn of spinners and emojis and Donald Trump and whatever, but whatever you draw actually has to be interesting to others to get popular, not just to yourself. One way or another you have to get people to repost it and talk about it.

Nobody owes you anything for spending a lot of time working hard on a piece, it's the value they receive that matters.

>>4796
Capitalist pigs not welcome here

>>7085
my oinks are worth more than your wah wahs, new age comm

>>4018
i forgot to add
>i have elevated my level of english to near native status (expressing myself is still difficult because i dont speak too much with people)
>on my way to learn japanese (those untranslated eroges wont stay out of my reach)

Monk tier hikki-dom is becoming a literal hermit. Come back when you farm your own food, produce your own clothing and transcend mortal desires.

>started working out and actually developed muscle
stopped reading right there

>>4019
try getting on voice chats , be that a videogame voice chat or just some discord VC.