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 No.7248[Reply]

There's probably something fucked up about how I lead my life but I just couldnt afford to do what the rest of people do, I dont want things to be predictable… I lived as a hobo with people on the road or on my own for the last 4 years but now even this is becoming to seem shallow, I dont know what to do to not get bored by life… Sometimes I feel I should just start a revolution… I feel like I'm missing something to have a fulfilling life, maybe I should get a gf and start simping but no grill will want of a hobo who lives in a trailer and digs trash to eat and live…
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 No.7321

>>7310

Hmmm, sounds interesting, problem is I live in France and there's not a lot of those in here, I lived in small communities but there always was a problem with drugs/alcohol among members, the best community experience I had was during COVID, I lived at some friend's uncle's farm for 2 months and it was great, we just did not keep on after COVID…

 No.7383

>>7310
sounds like communism

 No.7386

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>>7321
I can imagine drugs and alcohol in communities being a major problem. I've seen it myself, Twin Oaks specifically has fairly well put together people for the most part, they're really good at letting in people who are constructive for the community and making it a safe place for families (last I visited there were 4 families with children there.)
Anyways, that really sucks that this sort of thing isn't as common in France, I would have thought that less individualist countries would have more intentional communities if anything.

>>7383
They interact with the market through the cooperatively owned and operated businesses on site, (seed exchange, hammock factory, tofu factory, farm, furniture and woodworking workshop, etc) but internal to the community, yah, it is very communistic. Their catchphrase is, "Not Utopia Yet." Clothes, medical care, a monthly stipend, food, comfortable shelter and empathetic people are all really valuable things to have guaranteed even when the more consumer pleasures of our general society are less present there. And I really want to emphasize, there's no culty shit, they don't ask for any of your money and are officially secular though members are welcome to practice their respective religions.
The reason I'm not there right now is because I visited as a teenager and was too young to be settling down in a place like that and because I (perhaps foolishly) have tried to engage with the status quo instead and have been utterly failing at it for nearly 7 years now. Community college was awful, I can't manage to motivate myself to work a "real" job, I've just been sat in my room now for years. Maybe if I'm still like this at 30 I'll actually go back. I'd miss my mom though, she's probably the only reason I've stayed this long.
Here's some pics of one of my favorite rooms (a reading room with wifi) in one of the buildings there and a view from one of the bathroom windows. When you've grown up in moldy run down rentals your whole life the rooms in these images are luxurious. I have more pics if uboanons are interested, the buildings get nicer the more recently built they are there. The ones from the 70s are pretty small with small ceilings and some of the newer ones have modern 15ft ceilings in the hallways and big common roPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.7392

>>7386
>When you've grown up in moldy run down rentals your whole life the rooms in these images are luxurious.
True, I've never lived in a place as good looking and comfortable as those in your pictures. It's a bit shocking that a community like this survived for 50 years by itself. I assume they don't just let you sit on your ass all day but make you work for your stay? Probably still a better place than an actual workplace though

 No.7394

>>7386

Well, there are a few commmunities and I'm looking for some that might be under my radar, I'm hoping to be part of one in a year or two…

Problem is in less "individualistic countries" as you call them, people are less pressured to create viable alternatives to the system because they can just have free housing and a little bit of money for the rest of their lives, hence they become apathetic and actually more individualistic than ever, quite the paradox but it also kinda makes sense…



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 No.7360[Reply]

does anybody else remember hikkichan, ever so often I entertain the thought of somebody recreating/revamping it and giving us an entire imageboard. except I would much prefer it be an .onion than surface net

 No.7362

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 No.7365

I was on Hikkichan for quite a while. Sometimes I use the Wayback Machine to re-read the archive of that site.

 No.7390

>>7362
I have no idea how to code or create a webpage let alone maintain it so no, I cannot do it.

 No.7391

>>7390
You need to have Linux skills if you want to host a chan. Knowing how to program (preferably in the same language that the chan software uses) is only beneficial but it's not a hard requirement. Also, knowing some SQL can be beneficial as well (but it's not a hard requirement either).

Some resources:
- Start with https://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp and the w3schools CSS tutorial. But don't use the rest of w3schools tutorials because they suck.
Another great resource is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn

- Learn Linux skills: https://xubuntu.org/ + https://www.virtualbox.org/ + https://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
(you can also dual-boot Linux and Windows. You just need to use Windows disk management utilities to shrink a partition. Reserve 20GB or more for Linux. Use the existing EFI System Partition and make at least the / (root) file system. But the Xubuntu installer should ask if you want to use the free space and it should do the partitioning automatically in that case). You can use Rufus (https://rufus.ie/en/) to make a flash drive that contains the Xubuntu installer and the live environment. You can use PowersHell to check the integrity of the installation iso file: Get-FileHash xubuntu.iso -Algorithm SHA256

(You can first practice installing Xubuntu using VirtualBox virtual machine without making any changes your real HDD)


- (optionally) Learn how to program: https://automatetheboringstuff.com/

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 No.7325[Reply]

I've never been able to work on account of my schizophrenia. I am on SSI, but it's not enough to get an apartment without sharing the rent. I recently got kicked out of the place I was staying because I failed to get my name on the lease before moving in. The apartment manager waited to tell me this was against the rules until I'd already been living there for 2 months.

Currently couch surfing waiting for her to let me come back, but it seems unlikely. The uncertainty and constant money problems make my condition worse and I don't see any end in sight because the only affordable option in America for me is Section 8 housing, which takes 5 to 10 years to get approved for and situated in a home.

Anyone else just in permanent limbo on account of disability and constant threat of homelessness? It feels inescapable

 No.7326

>>7325

Can't you just go live in a trailer park in some shitty state where nobody wants to live?

I'm from France so I just dunno how things work in the US, just wondering…

 No.7328

>>7326
Even trailer homes in shitty states cost money, and I really don't have enough. Even if I did, I can't seem to pass the driving test on account of severe social and performance anxiety. Everything in most parts of the U.S., most of all the states no one wants to live in, everything is so spread out that one must own a vehicle even to get to the nearest grocery store.

 No.7375

>her
who is this exactly. looks like your only other option is to go on something like craigslist and find a cheap room. or if you're in the city try looking for cheap 24/7 Turn Key offices.

These rentable offices will let you come & go whenever, you just need to look like you don't obviously live there. you'd still have to figure out a shower/laundry situation though

 No.7380

not an immediate solution for you op, but if you end up homeless one day, you can always get a bus and go into a better state. massachusetts provides healthcare to all residents (even homeless) which includes some psych services. it's small and more urban so everything is close together and walkable. and you can always try your luck at a homeless shelter when you get there in the interim. it's not good, but it's a contingency with an ounce of hope at least.

i have a friend with some kind of undiagnosed psychotic disorder, he's in a pretty rough position and i've been considering rooming with him for a year or so to bring him back to the states and try and help him out, but also help me out too, i can't afford a place on my own.



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 No.3622[Reply]

Yoo

Im a neet too, a neet for many many years

I dont like to whine, not fond of self piety as its painfull and dangerous

Im prety good at avoiding reality with games, animes and random interests I cant keep for longer than a week

Life sucks but I cant fuck my family over with suicide. They arent the best but I cant do that.

Im 36 and despite being intelligent and talented with words , I have no skills, no degrees and no experience.

Nowadays ive been more and more unable to block reality as the rope is slowly tightened around my neck. Despair is starting to settle in and im looking for a way out of this shit.

Good thing is my parents might last for a few years and I can still train myself and try to get a job even when im so old.
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 No.3631

I want to learn programming just like OP but (and please don't take it as making fun of OP because I'm not) as a 21 year old I feel that I will never be a good programmer because all good programming wizards began to code at 10 or something like that.

 No.3632

>>3631
as a working programmer who did not start at 10 and used to feel the same way this is almost entirely BS and you are fine

 No.3633

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learn c OP

 No.3674

The problem with todays work market is that every single company, no matter how shitty it is, wants only the crème de la crème of the work force. They can afford their behaviour today because the work market today is a global one. You cannot find a genius engineer that will work for 15% less pay than average? No problem, put an add in estonia, you will have 50 applicants for this offer in no time.

However, times are not getting hard for us here. Very bad times are ahead of us and I doubt

In Japan, already 39% of the workforce is only part time employed. That means they work 7 hours a day, 6 days a week and earn 3 dollars per hour. Full time employment means you work 12 hours per day for a little more. People who lose their jobs end up homeless very fast because there is no unemployment money or welfare from the government. Young people who earn badly often end up in appartements with up to 8 or 9 other young people in similar situations.

In China, many factories are closing and the labourers who came from rural villages cannot find new work anymore because when you are past age 35 nobody wants you anymore. Many factories are beeing abandonned and rebuilt in cheaper places like Vietnam, Bangladesh and soon Burma. Many of those people are forced to leave the cities and go back to their ancestoral homelands in the villages. Then you have other Chinese who are young but still struggle to survive in cities even with jobs. I watched how one newspaper reporter lives in a bunker/basement and barely can afford the rent. Then one couple that lives in a bungalow with no running water and a shared toilet with 10 other "appartements". Then at the same time, there are ghost cities everywhere beeing built. I always believed that those ghost cities don't belong to anyone but this is wrong. Rich upper middle class people have bought those appartements in the ghost cities and now try to turn a profit on those investments by renting or selling it.

In America you have tent cities on the rise everywhere. Homeless people make up about 1% of the population already. In Silicon valley, rents have become so expensive that even workers from the prestigous tech companies cannot afford to rent and instead live in their cars. This is all happening while about 14% of real estate is not occupied by anyone. Bureau of statistics claims that jobs are in recovery mode but they do not tell you that most of the new jobs beeing created are waiter and bartendePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.7356

>>3625
Can attest , the 4 hour introductory python and C++ programming tutorials are great.



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 No.190[Reply]

post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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 No.7344

>>7077
I'm healthy again thank God

Had a weird 2 month sojourn to Michigan working at the family weed business, I never got paid though and they're not doing well at all

My house will be sold in next few weeks I think, and then I'm moving back to Europe

Was going to study for a TEFL certification and teach English but my course got cancelled, only offering a zoom replacement, but looking into it I couldn't get any of the good jobs without a degree so there's no point even getting a TEFL

Not sure what I'm going to do now

Live off savings somewhere nice and cheap and then write a book about all my experiences and write some music and poetry as well hopefully

Back in California for now but hoping to leave soon

 No.7345

Crazy I made this thread 7 years ago and it's still here

 No.7346

>>6741
I really like your cat

 No.7351

>>7345
Hows your life been ever since?

 No.7352

>>7351
well just read through this thread. Really like this format. Its nice seeing how you progress through life :) Looking forward to future updates !



 No.7283[Reply]

Anyone here do it? I used to cut myself open, just for the sake of it really, but I regret it a lot because the scars never faded and I'm covered in ugly lines that anyone would be able to tell are from self harming.

You may also post QTs cutting themselves up.
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 No.7309

>>7307
Thanks for the reply lain. Yeah… if mine haven't faded by now they're probably here for life like you say. I don't care much about strangers seeing them, but around my family I'm always paranoid that my clothes will come up and they'll see and put me in therapy or something. I have nostalgia for times in the past where I know I was just as miserable too. It's weird. Everyone wants to switch their struggles with someone else's, but doing that to myself makes me feel like a goldfish. I'd write a note to my future self, but I'm hoping I won't be in a position to need it by then.

The thing causing it for me isn't so much self worth as despair for the state of my life/future/world/reality. Self worth is mixed in there but it's not a big part. I'm not quite out of the hole yet… and honestly I don't know how I could be, because most of my despair feels completely justified and reasonable. My way of seeing is always developing though, maybe there's something new in the distance that puts all of this in a different light.

>If you want to have some way of control you need to blend in at some point

Could you explain this a bit more?

 No.7318

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Another cutter fag here, I used to do it to snap out of depression trance, that state where you can't discern your surroundings. I mostly don't care if people see it because I hardly consider most people people, but it makes me self conscious around the relevant people.
Anyone ever tried something to ease the scars? I read about a silicon gel but the thing is expensive.

 No.7332

Never cut myself on purpose but I would punch and kick things as a habit absent mindedly so much that my skin would break on my shins and knuckles. I have also smashed my head repeatedly against walls as well as punching walls in anger really hard most of the work I have done in my life has been hard labor and lots of alchohol abuse so I have been hit in the head by people and objects many times and I know it has affected my brain not so much physical scars(tho I do have them) but the scars on my brain

 No.7342

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I cut very infrequently, but reliably, for years. I always did deep, but relatively small cuts, to maximize pain and blood for minimum scars and visible damage. Sometimes I bled a lot, but I've always had an interest in medicine and first aid, and had stitched some shut in the past. I considered the pain from suturing a bonus.

To this day I can't say for certain why I did it. I think it was in some way because I wanted to be scarred. I wanted to be a mess. I wanted people to look at me and know there was something wrong with the world. Even so, I took care to treat the wounds and limit the scarring. They're scattered around my body and not in any rows or anything like that, and I've always healed really well, so many of them have faded despite being deep. Most of them are now subtle darker spots.

I eventually stopped because I was stupid. I was in a very tumultuous time in my life, and had just dropped out of college to go full NEET. I was very angry at myself. I had just started using a really nice hunting knife to cut, and I wasn't really familiar with it yet. While making a few smaller cuts, I got overzealous, and started to cut my back. A lot bigger and a lot deeper than I intended. I tried to deal with it myself, but it was too big, and too deep, and it being on my back made it very hard to suture, and I was losing way too much blood. After I couldn't stand up to see in the mirror anymore, I eventually gave in and called an ambulance.

My emergency contact proceeded to tell absolutely everybody (cops, family, hospital, friends….) what had happened. I tried to tell the social worker that they sent to evaluate me in the hospital that I didn't mean to hurt myself that badly, and that I wasn't going to do it again, but they told me I was 'unremorseful' and told me to my face that I was lying to them. Then they put me on involuntary medical hold in a facility. Let's just say that staying sane there was much tougher than the healing process.

After that I stopped, because it all felt so stupid and not worth the tribulations. I still get the urge, and have clawed myself a little bit in some more severe moments, but I've never actually cut again. As I said, the urge exists, but I don't miss it, really. Looking back, it feels very pointless. I still can't express that feeling of making other people see me, but I sure couldn't do it with cutting.

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 No.7350

I used to cut infrequently, usually during stressful or overly dull moments in my life I guess. nobody except for my boyfriend has ever seen my scars, and the ones I have anyway are close enough to certain places that they just look like stretch marks or whatever. I always thought it'd be tacky or too shameful of me to go the classic arm route, but I used to feel kind of envious of people with visible scars who could "be so open about it" in my head. I've always been too prideful about certain things, maybe cutting was one of those things, or maybe the decision to not cut on my arms was one of those things. it's probably the only thing that's kept me from fucking myself up too badly, or visibly.

>>7342
man, being admitted against my will has always been my worst nightmare and possibly the one other thing that's kept me from doing anything too deep or too near something. like you I always dressed my wounds appropriately, trying to make things heal as best as I could, while also secretly hoping someone would somehow see me as a wreck of a person too or something. it's such a desperate feeling.
I'm sorry you had to spend time under hold though, especially like that. I hope you're doing better, you sound like a nice person. for me the scars if anything just keep me from wearing certain clothes I'd really like to try. I don't know if I'll ever embrace them but who knows, it'd definitely be a lot easier if everyone could.



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 No.7167[Reply]

What works depict hikikomori/shut-in characters that you found relatable?
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 No.7235

>>7170
Tomoe is literally a student, she's more an outcast than anything. I heard the manga is sort of changing the overall theme and its becoming more slice of life as she's making new friends.

 No.7303

>>7196
This was nice to read, thank you.

 No.7320

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>>7196
Great read, thanks fren.
>>7235
Yeah first year watamote is a complete different manga, she grew a lot. I still very much relate to her tho, I similarly had a complete isolated high school experience but had a sudo social circle in college so kind of understand how it feel when all of a sudden you have """friends""".

 No.7322

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My Lesbian Experience With Loneliness.
This is a really interesting take on how someone deals with their demons. It is absolutely a different take compared to my own but at the same time is so easy to understand her conundrum even if her mindset is completely different from mine. Also it's not fiction. Also it's a little gay.

 No.7323

>>7322
A lot of Kabi's works fit well in here, I think. If you've ever struggled with adult responsibilities, trying to move out, or getting cripplingly dependent on alcohol, you might find something in them.



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 No.7313[Reply]

>years since I've left high school
>mid 20s
>still haven't managed to move out
>extremely low on money

I know there's still hope, but its feeling pretty bleak right now… I'll never get the past 5+ years back which is what I want the most, my formative years. I can only move forward

Anybody here manage to finally move out recently after years of living with a parent/family? I'm trying to get out of here and I have a strong feeling it will vastly improve if I can distance myself from this place

 No.7314

>>7313
No, I'm still living with my parents. But I think there is nothing to be shamed of if you live with your parents. I wouldn't talk to anyone if I lived on my own, so I think living with my parents is better for my mental health.

 No.7315

>>7313
>formative years
time spent is part of you. don't regret it. I've only recently moved away at 27 and I still rely on charity to get by. It's okay to rely on others, but always make sure you're doing something positive for yourself so you can grow and stand on your own.

 No.7317

Later is better than never.



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 No.7286[Reply]

I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm so lazy. It's a real obstacle in my life. There are things I want to do (they're not even obligations) and I just can't.

 No.7288

What do you think is the root of your laziness? I'm the same as you, and honestly its probably a mix of just apathy and never really ever needing to develop a work ethic for anything when I was young since I'd always be able to get by without putting in much effort.

 No.7290

I understand you perfectly, my friend. Procastination is the worst enemy you can afford. I know it's easier to say things than to actually get off your ass and do productive things, but try to create a habit as soon as you can, start with small tasks, like something that takes you 3 minutes to do, every day, and slowly start increasing the time and add new tasks. Getting into a habit is gradual and slow, but it is extremely satisfying when you realize that you have reduced laziness.

 No.7291

Lazy is not a real word. There is always a root cause of your actions (and inaction). If you're having trouble doing something consistently, question yourself as to why you're doing it. Is it what you want to do? What will you gain from it? If its something you do want to do, then question yourself as to why you're not doing it. Is it fear?

 No.7312

iktf, extremely lazy myself. I sometimes think if I had more daily sunlight, near my eyes, I'd somehow get better



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 No.7029[Reply]

Even knowing there's people in the same building as me makes it impossible to fully relax and be myself, and it kills any productivity. It feels so restricting.

How do you achieve complete isolation from humans?
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 No.7052

>>7051
What do you mean you're being recorded?!?!

 No.7243

I know what you mean. My Mother moved in this dysfunctional family into our home who fought and screamed at each other 24/7 while she went to live with her friend for a year.

I went from a relatively productive early bird neet to somebody who only binged youtube videos and sleep excessive amounts of hours. Unfortunately for me, she has found a new family to move in as of recent.


As for your question…
I don't think it's possible to achieve complete isolation from humans. Especially not as a hikki/neet. Perhaps if you worked a nightshift or something it could be comfortable enough.

 No.7304

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>>7029
I have lived my whole life sharing a room, I know your pain. You can never fully relax, you never have a place to call solely your own, you are forced supress emotions that you may be able to let out alone. You are constantly being judged by your family no matter where you are in the house. You have nowhere to escape.

It may be possible to achieve isolation, but I sure wouldn't have a clue how.

>>7243
Having a dysfunctional family is a large part of the issue, especially when they are volatile. I feel for you anon.

 No.7305

>>7243
what the hell, don't you have priority over this family living there? don't be afraid to assert your presence even if it's silent, it was your house first and they're the strangers.

 No.7306

>>7305
if his mom is letting them in and they have numbers, they clearly don't have a say



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