/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

i dont really know what kind of world i'd rather live in, just as long as its cold and quiet, and only filled with memories of people

My hope is that when the end comes mankind will have established life outside this planet by then

It's unlikely to happen of course but it would beat not having any living memory of our species aside from a gold plated record that other species, assuming they even exist, might not even realize what it is

>>6716
I do, and although most people talk of trying to repopulate the earth if they and some other person were the only one left on the planet, I think I'd honestly just accept that humanity's time is up and try to explore what's left of the world with them.

I used to love books and movies with post apocalyptic themes, where all of humanity was gone and there was only one sole survivor, and I'd fantasize that one day I'd wake up and everyone had just vanished for some reason. Later I decided these desires were part of my schizoid personality disorder.

>>6716
Oh, definitely. I just want to not have any responsibilities. I think the idea of the modern human life being reduced to bare survival relaxes my caveman brain. Modern civilization is too confusing and too overwhelming.

Pretty much for all my life, I always felt like the odd one out even though I never stood out except my right hand (my thumb was amputated) but it obviously never bothered me. Is hard for me to relate to people or even feel empathy for my Family and Friends, I recently starting to doubt my love for anyone, that's one of the reason why I go out as little as necessary and even be cautious about when to get out of my room for food or the toilet, so I don't meet any of my siblings.

My father is the weirdest person I've ever met, and one of the strangest people I've ever seen both online or off. So it only makes sense I'd turn out weird too.

But how is he weird? Well… whenever he speaks, it's like there's 3 or 4 different possible ways to interpret it. You never understood what he was really feeling, and he floated through life as if it were a game or a joke. Every time he did something, you had the impression that he would be perfectly content never doing it again.

Actually, I was deeply close with my father from birth until age 10, and this has permanently shaped how I see the world. In school I would try to befriend the quiet kids, but as soon as they warmed up to me I lost interest because I felt I understood them. Only those who I could not understand could hold my attention. Perhaps my baseline was permanently ruined by the influence of my father, or perhaps it's genetics.

Either way, as an adult I moved onto studying more complex figures like Arthur Schopenhauer or Yukio Mishima. Unfortunately, here too I was at a loss. Whatever intrigue which exists in these figures is rapidly diminished by close pattern observation. They don't follow the same rules as other humans, but once you watch them closely, you'll figure out their patterns in no time. And once I understand them, I can no longer take them seriously. My whole book collection could go up in smoke at this point, it wouldn't matter. I turned to philosophy, to mysticism, to numerology, to science. None of them contained what I was looking for. They didn't come close.

Nothing in the world can satisfy my desire, so I'm forced to create it. Whether I succeed or not remains to be seen. But I'll try.

Yeah
I don't know who I am, I only feel confusion and uncertainty
And I can't communicate or connect with anyone because I can't even connect with myself

>>8110
I think once you understand your father, the spell will be broken

anon..,,i relate to you anon. This iswhy in the first place i have decided self isolation is the next best thing after a few attempts. I cant say i fully hate my life though, id just prefer not to exist, sorry for getting off topic n all.

>>8159
sorry, i probably could have told you the sauce a couple years ago but now i'll just have to go with what >>8161 said

>>8172
the uboachan discord fucking sucks tbh

>>8113
Ever since I began seeking out NEETspaces in 2018, I've noticed that they've been increasingly populated by personalities which you could find in any school or work environment only less successful and more bitter or apathetic. I've noticed less people who totally reject or due to peculiar paranoias, hysterias, complexes, or heterodox spiritual beliefs live outside of regular decorum so as to totally shock you with their expectations. I encounter less bold people who assert themselves transgressively and then grapple with their intrinsic neet outsider identities. And more people who wallow into calling themselves neet and half-heartedly laugh at and repeat old memes with a sense of accomplishment. More people who speak about their mental health to convince themselves of their ineptitude and with the fear that someone in a worse position will reveal how embarrassingly fine they are. More standard bullies who mock their half-friends by measuring them up against standard societal norms. On top of that since 2020 NEET aesthetics, bedroom-hermits, hiki's etc have been totally co-opted by flatly normal people who would never settle these spaces anyway, so there's no longer much of a basis for NEET culture as it once was. Though there are definitely a lot of discords filled with NEETS, I don't think many people are hanging out in NEET discords.

Let's just say… I didn't stick around with the right people…

Im so fucking tireddddddddddAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i speedram yume nikki in 8 minutes and had been laying dowm for 3 days straight. Pls.help.me.

>>8166
I'll take the tea freak over the sheer nothingness that plagues most smaller imageboards nowadays. At least by posting something, no matter how inane it might seem, there's a chance a conversation could be started.

>>3735
Just wait til you see my butter spread

What a loaf of bullshit.

Have we started the leavening?

Yes! The bread rises!

Just test. I'm a newphag, nevermind.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9g7CRKjGOA8

my dad was in the military, so i was forced to move a lot.
eventually i learned to stop getting attached to acquaintances and frens alike.
sorry for rambling but your post reminded me of it, which leads to the only advice i can give you; that being stick with the things you love, your passions your hobbies those will be your salvation.

What country, anon?

>>6627
i was left alone like you playing vidya since age 3. i guess it was also my fault though. though i remember i could only play for only 1.30 h in the evening. so i think i spent most of my time in my room drawing and playing with lego. I was liked by everyone troughout all my school but i always "kept distance". The only guys i would go further with friendship were the outcasts or the people that were considered weirdos, it's like i was a magnet for troubles.
I had a neighbour as a friend but when it came to going out "playing" i was always trying to avoid that since i can remember. My "outer" friends where in sports and physical stuff which i hated, and i am also allergic to a lot of stuff (also fair of skin and hair and every possible "weak" gene). I guess some people are just born this way?
I'm starting to think that some NEETs are part of an aristocratic descent (not royal high level but just a House or similar) and we just have it on our genes. This is lamarkism thinking (which i got from Nietzsche tbh) but it would explain why some of us resort to (or at least wish to) buy land and live a self sustained life. I am not saying that we are entitled to be this way at all, and we should strive to be self sustaining, but i heard a lot of us feel like we are born in the wrong place. That's also probably why we despise being employees so much.
I'm sure the key is in hating being an employee of someone else for all our life. I was never convinced about the "you're just lazy" explanations for the most part.
Of course, there are other issues as well, but maybe they all stem from this fact?
Anyways, i'm just rambling.

>>8047
Are there many people with bad experiences with religion here? I was brought up in a heavily religious setting too.

>>8150
Are you >>8020? I can provide with some cyb resources if you want to try. Although i only did less than a year, for me minimum wage jobs feel terrible and i would only do one if i lived in some rural place where i am sure the money can suffice and i can eventually grow my own stuff and get some land. That's my probable plan Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>8151
Yeah, I'm the OP, and everyone you replied t0. (except Sei)

Thank you for wanting to help, but I don't live in the US or Europe so I don't know how much CYB could be of help to me. Think I'll just have to deal with my parents from now on and try to get a min. wage job that won't turn me insane.

>>8152
it's okay, i mean "cyb" as in /cyb/ (the board) which means cybersecurity. i have some stuff to get started (which i still have to get into myself):
https://cyberpunk-life.neocities.org/
https://github.com/Hack-with-Github/Awesome-Hacking
https://github.com/sbilly/awesome-security
https://sizeof.cat/links/#security
you just need a laptop, no need to have something powerful. there's the cyb career faq in the first website of these iirc that explains a possible path to get a job in the field
anyways, hope you can resist in there, i know the feeling. just don't get stuck in a wagie job for eternity (difficulty: impossible)

>>8153
Thank you, I will look into everything you send in the morning. Is it actually possible to just get a cybersec job without a degree? I've seen plenty of NEETs do it over the years. Maybe it's possible with COMPTia certs.

>>8154
looks like it is but don't get my word for it. you'll learn script and automation stuff anyway so a sys admin position could also be a thing maybe?
keep me updated!

>>5751
It sucks to have anxiety mixed with poor social skills but you should really try to finish uni. Once you're done with that then just find a job in IT where you don't really have to deal with people in person and you'll be fine.

>>5751
If you're really an IT major then the cutting edge for you would be learning every shell you can possibly learn.

As in, become fluent in Unix and Bash, learn PowerShell, learn how to script in all of those, and try your hand at other CLIs as well, like maybe Cisco IOS or Python scripting.

If you can demonstrate proficiency in these things you're 10x more employable than the average schmuck that only has Windows based certifications or whatever the case is. IT is moving towards automation. Learn programming and scripting.

Sorry for not replying in a long time,I have not really made much progress.I am better though.
Soo,I have managed to go to a total of 3 hours of attendence last semester,no exams done,but I will start going from this new semester,this is the first week,I really plan on going this time!No jobs yet,but the internship period is starting,my university might help me with that.
>>5984
I am from Europe,I don't know how the major definition works but I am at an IT profile for Computer Science.
Do you have any sources from when you started learning?Like some books maybe?I have some myself and found some more but I would like to know what you used yourself.
I just set up Emacs and learned a lot about it,now I will try and learn some programming languages or scripting.I mostly know C++,a little bit of C and Java.
I have not taken actions for my OCD yet,like going to get help from a specialist or anything like that yet!

>>5980
>>5980
I finished uni and I'm a total sperg with zero social skills. Went to class said nothing and came home.

>>5751
hey anon, still here? how are you doing? I'm 20 neet and currently thinking of retrying a CS degree (so i will be 21 when i start). I was wondering how it went for you, hope you are in a better place right now.

>>8136
hmm indeed thats a very interesting view point if i say so myself! you're rigth! we are the same AI, haha good one i love it

>>8133
>>8133

What's your life like??

>>8139
i don't have life

>i see people on the internet, being happy toghether and knowing im alone i cant help but want it too
Overstimulation leads to depression. Its like porn, you see so much of it you get a false sense of how things are in reality and start having negative thoughts that feed more porn consumption. The internet is like an evil spirit that offers up the most amazing images and visions except they are all just tricks and illusions. Its like that evil spirit that lures lost travellers in the forrest and takes them into its world. When your in the forrest, you have to beware of such creatures and not fall for their tricks. That doesn't mean never go for a hike or appreciate their beauty but don't get your head stuck in iydillic images being spoon fed to you by a corporate machine.

Ask yourself, will these things really make me happy or are these images manipulating the primitive lizard-like parts of my brain? You should want friends because you want to be happy or be with another person and genuinely form bonds with people. If you want friends because you want the fantasy life the internet is selling you then your basically suffering from either jealousy or despair and that can lead you down a path of negativity. You begin measuring yourself by what your not and what you never can be and feel like a failure or you resent the world and hate it.

hi, i can relate to you, because i'm still fighting this whole cycle im in, some advice my therapist has told me is that 1.- it is okay to not to everything at the same time in one day, every small thing counts, like taking the trash out, or taking a bath, heck, even cleaning one or more dishes, every small step is still a step.
One thing that helped me become "active" is to put some old shoes that were uncomfy af, and it made my brain to move and do things
my room is still a mess most days, but i do small things like making the bed or opening the window to let some sun and air to flow, and im starting to appreciate those small things.
As to going outside, thing i barely do, unless to visit my therapist and idk, buy meds, i go out walks on mornings or late nights, i hate seeing people, i hate being outside but doing this is making me to adapt more to the outside world.
I hope this text from a random stranger can help you in some way, social interaction is scary, be strong out there

>>4851


>online long distance relationships exist and those isolated in their rooms won't be any less hikki for that.

I mean there could also be a physical relationship of 2 hikkies in a room togheter that dont interact with soceity and other stuff like a single hikki whould and tick all the boxes if we where to count them as one person like not going outside for 6 months and not interacting with others (other than themselfes) . dont know if that counts as hikki or just NEET.

While very unlikely , its a possibility , the most likely way i can think of is hikki meeting hikki online and falling in love then deciding to move in the same room.

I mean hikki is ultimately just a label to describe existing behaviour at the end of the day so it doesnt really matter of someone is labeled a hikki or not because if they still suffer most if not all the symptoms (for example didnt leave the room for 10 months except one time 5 months ago when they needed to buy milk from the store may not be techically hikki because they left the room but still suffer the acute social withdrawl and all that stuff).

>>6488
My ideea was that its a very socially recluse couple , as in:

-spending most of the day and nearly every day confined to home,

-marked and persistent avoidance of social situations, and social relationships, (except for the GF/BF)

-social withdrawal symptoms causing significant functional impairment,

-duration of at least six months, and
no apparent physical or mental etiology to account for the social withdrawal symptoms.

>>4784
If somebody wanted to be a normie they could do it on heyuri or 7chan
I'm glad you think you're that important

I see why this place has cleared out over the late 2010s. Anyway OP did you meet that girl?

>>7615
Your living the life anon.

andrew tate ass post lmao

>>7993
>>7788
It's too late to be having your lolbert Pinochet dickrider phase at your age.

Totally relatable. I hate you OP also, because you're a faggot who doesn't do shit just as anyone else. I hate myself also. My hate is universal and is applied to every entity with the only exception of Providence. I will not allow myself to find fault with Providence. Everything else is subject to my hate. Fuck off.